The Art Of Saree Wearing (Indian Sarees)

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frist learn how to wear a saree :lol: so hard work


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i wil post some more sareees next time ..... i hope u like the sarees hehehe:lol:

[Yak_Dukhtare_Pak]

Originally posted by No Nick
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hmmm..the blue one.. nice nice! lol
my friend brought me a sari from india, havent seen it yet, coz i havent seen her yet... so useful info no nick bro.. thanx..

i wanna wear it the way the girl in blue has it on..

[Amisha]

I dont like saaris u know.. I think it's something for grown up women.. hmm mostly old women..

One of my paki friends got it.. Kho she isnt that young, she is 20 but still I dont think it looks nice on her.. :unsure:

[No Nick]

lol i dont know dega it :lol: caz it is not men wear

[Yasamine]

Originally posted by Amisha
I dont like saaris u know.. I think it's something for grown up women.. hmm mostly old women..

One of my paki friends got it.. Kho she isnt that young, she is 20 but still I dont think it looks nice on her.. :unsure:

lol well.. i dont like saaris either, for the same reason as urs ;)
but i like shararaz (datz wat they're called, i think )

Like this one:

http://www.my-india.net/p/m/stars/f/priyanka/i/1.jpg

[Yasamine]

Originally posted by No Nick
lol i dont know dega it :lol: caz it is not men wear

but ur obviously interested in them..hmmmm.. i wonder y :tongue: lol

[DUKHTARAKI_QAND]

Originally posted by Yasamine
but ur obviously interested in them..hmmmm.. i wonder y :tongue: lol

caz dukan-e sare feroshe dara:lol:

[Yasamine]

Originally posted by DUKHTARAKI_QAND
caz dukan-e sare feroshe dara:lol:

haha :D raasti.. tu az chee mayfaami? :naughty: lol

[Amisha]

Originally posted by Yasamine
lol well.. i dont like saaris either, for the same reason as urs ;)
but i like shararaz (datz wat they're called, i think )

Like this one:

http://www.my-india.net/p/m/stars/f/priyanka/i/1.jpg

ya me too.. 2 jora darum one n light purple and the other light green lol they are so heavvy man, o ra k meposhum khuda shor dada nametanum :bleh:

[Yasamine]

Originally posted by Amisha
ya me too.. 2 jora darum one n light purple and the other light green lol they are so heavvy man, o ra k meposhum khuda shor dada nametanum :bleh:

hehe..really, u have them? ma kambakhta bogo.. i cant find any in this stupid place :rolleyes

[Amisha]

Originally posted by Yasamine
hehe..really, u have them? ma kambakhta bogo.. i cant find any in this stupid place :rolleyes

well u can find em in here.. but i haven't bought em from here, mum got em for me from pak.

but da hech jaye poshida namesha dega.. so chi faida..

[Yasamine]

Originally posted by Amisha
well u can find em in here.. but i haven't bought em from here, mum got em for me from pak.

but da hech jaye poshida namesha dega.. so chi faida..

hmm true true.. i want js one, u know.. for the fun of it ;) lol

[$anam]

ma kho jane khowar 5 jora kharidum ba khud sharara... i love them :luv:

[DUKHTARAKI_QAND]

Originally posted by $anam
ma kho jane khowar 5 jora kharidum ba khud sharara... i love them :luv:

sis jane qand salam....kharedi yaa kharedan baret?:rolleyes :P

[suraya]

sarees=ewww cause they make you look fat and they are just too gay and plain and wierd.

[Phy]

^^^ Yah they only make you look fat if you yourself are a fatty :peace:. Whoops :shy:.

Btw, I'm not a big fan of saris either but if worn correctly and of the right material (chiffon or organza mainly), they look very delicate, feminin, and pretty :)

Hahaha we actually use saris to make curtains lol. They're really light and some have fabulous one of a kind patterns. Perhaps I'll take a picture of the ones I have in my room. The colour is absolutely amazing :)

[Superman]

Originally posted by Phy


Hahaha we actually use saris to make curtains lol.

:D what else can one expect from a Bhangra fan.. :D

[Phy]

^^^Lol what is this? Bash Phy day? :D

Nah guy I dunno how much you know about interior decor but if you go to higher end stores, they're all selling what they call "sari curtains" and their prices are so high it's not even funny. They really do look amazing depending on your furniture and stuff ;)

[Superman]

Originally posted by Phy
^^^Lol what is this? Bash Phy day? :D

Nah guy I dunno how much you know about interior decor but if you go to higher end stores, they're all selling what they call "sari curtains" and their prices are so high it's not even funny. They really do look amazing depending on your furniture and stuff ;)

i was just joking, i hope u dont mind.. ;)

[Phy]

Nope don't mind at all :)

[suraya]

Originally posted by Phy
^^^ Yah they only make you look fat if you yourself are a fatty :peace:. Whoops :shy:.

Btw, I'm not a big fan of saris either but if worn correctly and of the right material (chiffon or organza mainly), they look very delicate, feminin, and pretty :)

Hahaha we actually use saris to make curtains lol. They're really light and some have fabulous one of a kind patterns. Perhaps I'll take a picture of the ones I have in my room. The colour is absolutely amazing :)

whateva you say man i personally hate them and especiallly when afghans wear sari. i mean why don't they just stick to their own clothing. aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:P :rant:

[Phy]

Originally posted by suraya
whateva you say man i personally hate them and especiallly when afghans wear sari. i mean why don't they just stick to their own clothing. aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:P :rant:
I totally respect your opinion of not liking saris but I guess by applying your own mentality, Afghans should also stick to their own music and food and oh oh ohhhhhh perhaps country even :peace:

You see how dumb that kind of thinking really is sweetheart? Hope you won't jump down my throat like last time. Anyways, :hug::kh:

[Superman]

Originally posted by suraya
whateva you say man i personally hate them and especiallly when afghans wear sari. i mean why don't they just stick to their own clothing. aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:P :rant:

lol.. this Guy "Phy" likes Bhangra Music, and his fav singer is Mehso, so its obvious that he likes Saarees..:D

[suraya]

Originally posted by Superman
lol.. this Guy "Phy" likes Bhangra Music, and his fav singer is Mehso, so its obvious that he likes Saarees..:D

lol superman.

phy man don't mess wit me. i just wanna smack you right now. and as for the music and whateva you mentioned in your post, i don't listen to indian music and i don't eat their food ( it gives you diarrea) lol and as for their clothing , i prefer to wear afghan clothes and being an afghan, why r u taking their side?
:P :P :rolleyes :chair: ::bicycle: :bang:

[Phy]

Superman, my what wonderful coherence skills we have. I like bhangra so I must like saris. Wow. You're GOOD :o

Suraya, sorry darling but I have better things to do in life than mess with online losers. I guess you parade down the street in full fledge Afghan attire then na? Woo hoo you :o . As far as smacking goes, girl you dont want to mess with me. I might come across as beinga cute little quiet girl (YES Superman a GIRL) but believe you me, Tae Kwon Do and self defense classes have done me good on more than one occasion ;)

Ciao you dork faces :hug: :kh:

[suraya]

Originally posted by Phy
Superman, my what wonderful coherence skills we have. I like bhangra so I must like saris. Wow. You're GOOD :o

Suraya, sorry darling but I have better things to do in life than mess with online losers. I guess you parade down the street in full fledge Afghan attire then na? Woo hoo you :o . As far as smacking goes, girl you dont want to mess with me. I might come across as beinga cute little quiet girl (YES Superman a GIRL) but believe you me, Tae Kwon Do and self defense classes have done me good on more than one occasion ;)

Ciao you dork faces :hug: :kh:

no comments to the rude pakis in afghanforums. loserrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!:P

[Superman]

Originally posted by Phy
Superman, my what wonderful coherence skills we have. I like bhangra so I must like saris. Wow. You're GOOD :o

Suraya, sorry darling but I have better things to do in life than mess with online losers. I guess you parade down the street in full fledge Afghan attire then na? Woo hoo you :o . As far as smacking goes, girl you dont want to mess with me. I might come across as beinga cute little quiet girl (YES Superman a GIRL) but believe you me, Tae Kwon Do and self defense classes have done me good on more than one occasion ;)

Ciao you dork faces :hug: :kh:

u r so sexy phy :shy:

[bibi_shereeni]

ee chee jang o dawa shoud :| everyone has their own opinion and you should respect that... what's with calling names :huh1:

yeah i don't like saris either... if you're in india and wear it, that's fine, but anywhere else, wearing it would look like you're indian or indian-wanna-be.. but wearing other types of indian clothes, ONCE IN A WHILE is okay..

phy jan, eating indian food doesn't make you look like an indian. however wearing a sari does. ;)

[suraya]

Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
ee chee jang o dawa shoud :| everyone has their own opinion and you should respect that... what's with calling names :huh1:

yeah i don't like saris either... if you're in india and wear it, that's fine, but anywhere else, wearing it would look like you're indian or indian-wanna-be.. but wearing other types of indian clothes, ONCE IN A WHILE is okay..

phy jan, eating indian food doesn't make you look like an indian. however wearing a sari does. ;)

bibi shereeni that's what i am trying to emphasize to them, but some ppl are jangara in here. AT least u know what i am talking about.:)

[suraya]

Originally posted by Superman
u r so sexy phy :shy:

superman, i like the picture in ur avatar.:)

[bibi_shereeni]

Originally posted by suraya
bibi shereeni that's what i am trying to emphasize to them, but some ppl are jangara in here. AT least u know what i am talking about.:)
:)

[bibi_shereeni]

Originally posted by suraya
superman, i like the picture in ur avatar.:)
uh... superman, what's with you and go-gosh?.. she's so old now.. i think over 60... put a picture of someone who is at least not expired yet :lol:

[Phy]

Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
ee chee jang o dawa shoud :| everyone has their own opinion and you should respect that... what's with calling names :huh1:

yeah i don't like saris either... if you're in india and wear it, that's fine, but anywhere else, wearing it would look like you're indian or indian-wanna-be.. but wearing other types of indian clothes, ONCE IN A WHILE is okay..

phy jan, eating indian food doesn't make you look like an indian. however wearing a sari does. ;)
Sweetheart I'm Indian :)

Would you guys feel the same way if I went bad mouthing Afghan clothes/food/music/culture etc...? ;)

[Superman]

Originally posted by Phy
Sweetheart I'm Indian :)

Would you guys feel the same way if I went bad mouthing Afghan clothes/food/music/culture etc...? ;)
hahah really? thx god that i didnt say Daal khor :D

[Superman]

Originally posted by suraya
superman, i like the picture in ur avatar.:)

Thank u Suraya jaan..:)

[Superman]

Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
uh... superman, what's with you and go-gosh?.. she's so old now.. i think over 60... put a picture of someone who is at least not expired yet :lol:

Old is gold and more experienced.. :hip:

[Phy]

Originally posted by Superman
hahah really? thx god that i didnt say Daal khor :D
Oh LOOK!!!! There's ISH spewing from your face again :o

[Superman]

Originally posted by Phy
Oh LOOK!!!! There's ISH spewing from your face again :o

what? :rolleyes :huh1:

[suraya]

Originally posted by Superman
what? :rolleyes :huh1:

superman don't listen to the indian losers in afghanforums. lol:)

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Edited by AsH-21

Don't make an idiot of yourself or make this thread an idiots galore. Watch your language

[Phy]

Originally posted by suraya
superman don't listen to the ****ing indian losers in afghanforums. lol:)
My you must be very proud of yourself repping your fellow country persons like that and creating such a fabulous image of Afghans. Keep up the good work ;)

[suraya]

Originally posted by Phy
My you must be very proud of yourself repping your fellow country persons like that and creating such a fabulous image of Afghans. Keep up the good work ;)

i was not talking to u.:P

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Again, watch your language. I don't want to see a 3rd instance of trying to prove to the world you're more gifted than Bozo.

[bibi_shereeni]

Originally posted by Phy
Sweetheart I'm Indian :)


in that case, yeah it looks nice if YOU wear saree... cuz you're indian.. but i personally don't want to wear it cuz i'm not indian :)
and no i don't like bad mouthing.. that's why i asked you guys to stop ;)

[Maihan™]

wooo :shy: take it easy ladies...whats the big deal???..

i recently bought two sarees...they look damn nice in my opinion...kinda give u a classy look...but i dont see why u guys are against sarees when u go around wearing those other suits, pajama suits and all those other indian clothing i dunno the names of.

I have an uncle who is sooooo against indian clothing...movies..food etc...cuz he thinks our generation is deviating from our culture into indian culture....kinda funny though cuz our generation went through living a few years of our lives in either pakiland or india. So its to be expected...and i honestly would rather have myself or my sisters go towards the indian culture than that of caucasians...besides their fabrics and decor is out of this world!!

But i would have to agree with the ladies just a bit...u cant go overdoing something..if u show up to every party in an indian outfit it's a bit odd...once in a while it looks very nice.

and phy sis ur indian???...thats interesting..what brings u to afghanforums???

[bibi_shereeni]

Originally posted by Maihan
wooo :shy: take it easy ladies...whats the big deal???..

i recently bought two sarees...they look damn nice in my opinion...kinda give u a classy look...but i dont see why u guys are against sarees when u go around wearing those other suits, pajama suits and all those other indian clothing i dunno the names of.

I have an uncle who is sooooo against indian clothing...movies..food etc...cuz he thinks our generation is deviating from our culture into indian culture....kinda funny though cuz our generation went through living a few years of our lives in either pakiland or india. So its to be expected...and i honestly would rather have myself or my sisters go towards the indian culture than that of caucasians...besides their fabrics and decor is out of this world!!

But i would have to agree with the ladies just a bit...u cant go overdoing something..if u show up to every party in an indian outfit it's a bit odd...once in a while it looks very nice.

and phy sis ur indian???...thats interesting..what brings u to afghanforums???
Ok here's the thing... i don't wear any kind of indian clothing... not just sarees. IF i were living in india or pakistan, then i would, becuz i would feel more comfortable looking like the majority cuz if you look different, then everyone would look at you (i'm talking about being in public)... so anyways, now since i'm not living in india, nor am i an indian, why should wear indian clothing?... if you want to dress more ba-hijab and stuff, why wouldn't you wear afghani clothes?... i think afghani clothes are a lot nicer than sarees... but that's just MY opinion and i respect everyone else's... everyone has their own likes and dislikes. As i said in one of my previous posts that it's okay wearing other types of indian clothing onceee in a while (as you maihan jan also said)... the reason that i'm saying that wearing otherr kinds of indian clothing is not as bad as sarees is becuz saree is just too indian lol.. i mean if you go to afghanistan, you'll see a lot of ppl wearing indian clothes but you can hardly see anyone wearing sarees.
Maihan jan, as i said, it's just my opinion.. i'm sure a looooooooot of ppl would agree with you.. one example would be my mom hehe.. she always tells me that i should get indian clothes cuz she likes them :kiddo:
ok i talked too much :shy:

[Saeed]

Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
Ok here's the thing... i don't wear any kind of indian clothing... not just sarees. IF i were living in india or pakistan, then i would, becuz i would feel more comfortable looking like the majority cuz if you look different, then everyone would look at you (i'm talking about being in public)... so anyways, now since i'm not living in india, nor am i an indian, why should wear indian clothing?... if you want to dress more ba-hijab and stuff, why wouldn't you wear afghani clothes?... i think afghani clothes are a lot nicer than sarees... but that's just MY opinion and i respect everyone else's... everyone has their own likes and dislikes. As i said in one of my previous posts that it's okay wearing other types of indian clothing onceee in a while (as you maihan jan also said)... the reason that i'm saying that wearing otherr kinds of indian clothing is not as bad as sarees is becuz saree is just too indian lol.. i mean if you go to afghanistan, you'll see a lot of ppl wearing indian clothes but you can hardly see anyone wearing sarees.
Maihan jan, as i said, it's just my opinion.. i'm sure a looooooooot of ppl would agree with you.. one example would be my mom hehe.. she always tells me that i should get indian clothes cuz she likes them :kiddo:
ok i talked too much :shy:
so many complaining about saaris esp suraya jan-e icky mouth, and saying everyone should wear their own thing...

i agree, afghan guys wear perantonban, what about the ladies? what is afghan female clothing anyways? I have not seen any other than the afghan dresses which are mainly kochi derived clothing pieces with long dresses and they are basically in essence patches of cloth pieces multicolored sewn together like blankets in afghanistan and in the shape of a dress however by chance they had their own exhubarent beauty. way to go, i agree, there should be designers that make business suits out of those and casual other pants and such all with the colorful mixes and all the bells and whistles and mini mirrors. Now wouldn't that look great?

cause let's face it... Jeans = western, t-shirt = western, saari = indian, hijab = arabic (won't even get into arab debate as for afghan "islam's equivalent" = chaadari), short skirt = french, and all such designs should be out when we say ONLY AFGHAN... let's at least be consistent when even being judgmental by race and culturistic manners, don't you think? ;)

[Phy]

^^^Have I ever told you that you actually read my mind sometimes lol? ;) :peace: :dry:

Maihan dearest, DJ Zalim Khan told me :)

[Saeed]

Originally posted by Phy
^^^Have I ever told you that you actually read my mind sometimes lol? ;) :peace: :dry:
nope, this is the first time... enlighten me more plz :D

[bibi_shereeni]

Originally posted by AsH-21

i agree, afghan guys wear perantonban, what about the ladies? what is afghan female clothing anyways? I have not seen any other than the afghan dresses which are mainly kochi derived clothing pieces with long dresses and they are basically in essence patches of cloth pieces multicolored sewn together like blankets in afghanistan and in the shape of a dress however by chance they had their own exhubarent beauty. way to go, i agree, there should be designers that make business suits out of those and casual other pants and such all with the colorful mixes and all the bells and whistles and mini mirrors. Now wouldn't that look great?


wow, couldn't you insult our tradition more?... it's really sad..
i was nice enough to not make fun of sarees becuz it's someone's tradition but now......
buy a few metres of fabric and wrap yourself lol (that's what it looks like, though now i see that it needs more effort than just wrapping).. i don't know how that's any nicer than afghani clothes :huh1: ... but okay it's nicer in YOUR eyes.. don't you think you didn't have to be disprespectful?

[Saeed]

Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
wow, couldn't you insult our tradition more?... it's really sad..
i was nice enough to not make fun of sarees becuz it's someone's tradition but now......
buy a few metres of fabric and wrap yourself lol (that's what it looks like, though now i see that it needs more effort than just wrapping).. i don't know how that's any nicer than afghani clothes :huh1: ... but okay it's nicer in YOUR eyes.. don't you think you didn't have to be disprespectful?
i'm afghan too ;) insulting tradition comment does not answer what i asked... it's a simple question, what = afghan clothing?

if you respond with enough information with factual basis, that makes it a fine question, however no response from anyone shows that we like to be ignorant and disrespectful to other traditions without having a sense of a clue about our own, in a sense making asses of ourselves and in the process insulting not only ourselves but our tradition...

and if you read my post which i admit is highly sarcastic in areas carefully you'd see that in no way am i comparing Saari or Afghani clothing, rather pointing out the gapping flaws in the ideology behind some peoples remarks here

[Phy]

Originally posted by AsH-21
nope, this is the first time... enlighten me more plz :D
Even though I'm 101% sure I've told you that before and you probably don't remember because you never really pay attention to me when I talk because you think all I ever do is babble (:cry: :rant: ), I'd like to take that back. I'm the one who always enlightens you with my stellar thoughts - you don't really read my mind :console: :P

Bibi_shereeni, sweetheart he's not insulting Afghan culture or traditions :). I don't mean to point fingers because quite a few of you guys share the same mentality but when Suraya said that she hates it when Afghans wear saris because it makes them look Indian or whatever else reason, that's a tad bit hypocritical. If that's really what you think, you guys should ONLY stick to wearing Afghan clothes and shouldn't even think about wearing pants, skirts, tshirts etc... because God forbid you start looking like a "faranghee" :o . I'd like to point out the sarcasm in that last sentence for those of you who might have missed it :). I do hope now that you might better understand where we're coming from :hug:

[ME-Crazy]

Originally posted by Phy
If that's really what you think, you guys should ONLY stick to wearing Afghan clothes and shouldn't even think about wearing pants, skirts, tshirts etc... because God forbid you start looking like a "faranghee" :o . I'd like to point out the sarcasm in that last sentence for those of you who might have missed it :). I do hope now that you might better understand where we're coming from :hug:

lol Ferangee hahaha..When I used to watch the Pakistani dramas, they would call the English men, Ferangee..ah good old days...
Yeah what is the traditional "Afghan" clothes again? if its chadaree then screw it. Other than that I havent seen anything else..hmmm yap nothing else.

Dont pay attention to such remarks ;) Phy. We hate everyone lol because we are the "Best" of all nations and other nations owe their existence to us.! :lol:
Have you seen how highly developed we are? ouiii the inhumanity!

[suraya]

Originally posted by Phy
Even though I'm 101% sure I've told you that before and you probably don't remember because you never really pay attention to me when I talk because you think all I ever do is babble (:cry: :rant: ), I'd like to take that back. I'm the one who always enlightens you with my stellar thoughts - you don't really read my mind :console: :P

Bibi_shereeni, sweetheart he's not insulting Afghan culture or traditions :). I don't mean to point fingers because quite a few of you guys share the same mentality but when Suraya said that she hates it when Afghans wear saris because it makes them look Indian or whatever else reason, that's a tad bit hypocritical. If that's really what you think, you guys should ONLY stick to wearing Afghan clothes and shouldn't even think about wearing pants, skirts, tshirts etc... because God forbid you start looking like a "faranghee" :o . I'd like to point out the sarcasm in that last sentence for those of you who might have missed it :). I do hope now that you might better understand where we're coming from :hug:

PHY YOU BETTER NOT SAY **** TO ME OR ABOUT THE WAY I THINK, THIS THREAD IS ABOUT INDIAN SAREES AND I SIMPLY SAID I DON'T LIKE THEM, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO STATE MY OPINION AND IF YOU ARE BEING OFFENDED THEN I AM SORRY, CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

[Phy]

^^^Did you read the part where I said "I don't mean to point fingers because quite a few of you guys share the same mentality but..." or do you have selective comprehension? :D :shy: . And what's with the upper case text? Calm down babes :shy: :rolleyes


Me-Crazy, moi laaaabs you lol :hug:. Oh hey while we're on the subject of Pakistani dramas, do you watch Omar Sharif? Aww jeez the man is hilarious :D . In quite a few of his plays he sings and dances to that old Hindi song ghar aya mera pardesi BAHAHAHAHAH :D. Nice french btw :kiss: :shy:

[bibi_shereeni]

ash and me-crazy, if you are afghan and don't know what afghani clothing is, that's too bad.. maybe you should go to afghanistan and figure it out cuz i don't have time to explain it here... and yeah i don't think that you are gonna gain anything by kissing others' a**es and insulting your own culture.

2nd... like i said, and i repeat myself again.. if i were living in india, i would wear indian clothes and now that i'm in the west, i wear western clothing. simply becuz i don't wanna get attention.. there's a saying "khahee ke nashee ruswa, hamrang e jama'at bash"...
However, i don't care what you wear... why on earth should i care?... i said i don't like saree and i don't wear it... i was talking about myself.. i wasn't talking on behalf of everyone else.. and i repeadly said that everyone's opinion is different and i respect that... if you don't like my opinion, too bad, don't accuse me of saying something that i didn't say..i NEVER said that afghans are better (or worse) than others... i'm not stupid to make such a dumb comment... god, mara az ami forum teer!

Phy, you don't need to translate someone else's comments for me.. i don't think i need that but thanks anyways ;)

i want to apologize to indians for making the comment in my previous post about sarees.. i did not mean to insult your tradition, but someone forced me to make that comment.

Peace! ;)

[suraya]

Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
ash and me-crazy, if you are afghan and don't know what afghani clothing is, that's too bad.. maybe you should go to afghanistan and figure it out cuz i don't have time to explain it here... and yeah i don't think that you are gonna gain anything by kissing others' a**es and insulting your own culture.

2nd... like i said, and i repeat myself again.. if i were living in india, i would wear indian clothes and now that i'm in the west, i wear western clothing. simply becuz i don't wanna get attention.. there's a saying "khahee ke nashee ruswa, hamrang e jama'at bash"...
However, i don't care what you wear... why on earth should i care?... i said i don't like saree and i don't wear it... i was talking about myself.. i wasn't talking on behalf of everyone else.. and i repeadly said that everyone's opinion is different and i respect that... if you don't like my opinion, too bad, don't accuse me of saying something that i didn't say..i NEVER said that afghans are better (or worse) than others... i'm not stupid to make such a dumb comment... god, mara az ami forum teer!

Phy, you don't need to translate someone else's comments for me.. i don't think i need that but thanks anyways ;)

i want to apologize to indians for making the comment in my previous post about sarees.. i did not mean to insult your tradition, but someone forced me to make that comment.

Peace! ;)

bibi_shereeni, you did a great job of explaining it to them. :)

[suraya]

Originally posted by Phy
^^^Did you read the part where I said "I don't mean to point fingers because quite a few of you guys share the same mentality but..." or do you have selective comprehension? :D :shy: . And what's with the upper case text? Calm down babes :shy: :rolleyes


Me-Crazy, moi laaaabs you lol :hug:. Oh hey while we're on the subject of Pakistani dramas, do you watch Omar Sharif? Aww jeez the man is hilarious :D . In quite a few of his plays he sings and dances to that old Hindi song ghar aya mera pardesi BAHAHAHAHAH :D. Nice french btw :kiss: :shy:
when Suraya said that she hates it when Afghans wear saris because it makes them look Indian or whatever else reason, that's a tad bit hypocritical.

phy honey i think you are high and forgot to read your own post cause you were criticizing my opinion. don't you ever do that again.:P

[ME-Crazy]

Originally posted by Phy

Me-Crazy, moi laaaabs you lol :hug:. Oh hey while we're on the subject of Pakistani dramas, do you watch Omar Sharif? Aww jeez the man is hilarious :D . In quite a few of his plays he sings and dances to that old Hindi song ghar aya mera pardesi BAHAHAHAHAH :D. Nice french btw :kiss: :shy:

:D yes!! Omar shariff rocks! Have you ever seen Shekhar Suman? He tries to act like Jay Leno..lol and is quite good at it too. me love you too btw ;)



ash and me-crazy, if you are afghan and don't know what afghani clothing is, that's too bad.. maybe you should go to afghanistan and figure it out cuz i don't have time to explain it here... and yeah i don't think that you are gonna gain anything by kissing others' a**es and insulting your own culture.

Why are you so mad? lol
When was the last time you wore Afghan clothes? and please state what it was? How come you have time to write a paragraph full of insults and not one second to inform me about afghan clothing? Isnt it your afghan duty, to bring me to the right path of hating everyone and putting ourselves above all? I mean come on we are Aryans!
I must have gone astray...I can't help but to appreciate other cultures..my God what should I do?:cry: I wish to live in D_E_N_I_L_E just like you sweet folks! please help me ..PLEASE.


:|

[bibi_shereeni]

Originally posted by suraya
bibi_shereeni, you did a great job of explaining it to them. :)
lol, they still don't get it... i don't know if they really don't get it or is it cuz they don't know what to say.

[bibi_shereeni]

Originally posted by ME-Crazy

Why are you so mad? lol
When was the last time you wore Afghan clothes? and please state what it was? How come you have time to write a paragraph full of insults and not one second to inform me about afghan clothing? Isnt it your afghan duty, to bring me to the right path of hating everyone and putting ourselves above all? I mean come on we are Aryans!
I must have gone astray...I can't help but to appreciate other cultures..my God what should I do?:cry: I wish to live in D_E_N_I_L_E just like you sweet folks! please help me ..PLEASE.


:|
very funny.
first of all... THIS is why i'm mad.. cuz you don't get it even if i repeat myself 10 times... you still accuse me of things that i didn't say.
I explained why i don't wear afghani clothes in my previous post... read it carefully please.
The reason that i don't have time to explain it to you what afghani clothes is, is becuz you're an afghan and you should know it... if you were a non-afghan, then i would :)
When did i write "a paragraph full of insults"? and when did i say that i hate everyone? I don't hate anyone anddd i have stated in my previous post againn that i never said or thought that afghans are above others.
if you still don't get it, then that's certainly not my problem ;)

[Phy]

Suraya, sweetheart try to comprehend what it is that I'm saying. I said that I don't want to single you out by pointing a lone finger at you simply because more people share your mentality. I am NOT singling you out and criticising only your opinion :)


Me-Crazy, lol no I haven't heard of Shekhar Suman :shy: . You know who else rocks though? Moin Akhtar :D. Him and Omar Sharif together is just killer :D. If you have an Indian or Pakistani store near where you live, definately check out their stage show Bakra Kishton Pay :clap:. The first time I saw it (and even today lol :shy: ) I honestly cried, it was that funny :yuppy :D :shy:

[Saeed]

Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
ash and me-crazy, if you are afghan and don't know what afghani clothing is, that's too bad.. maybe you should go to afghanistan and figure it out cuz i don't have time to explain it here...
Next time you are unable to explain, don't pass your excuse through a long sentence stating you don't have the time, as the time excuse runs thin when you have the time to post a long comment about your opinion and others kissing up to others, rather are unable to explain afghan history in very simple terms which would take even less time.

I am well informed of our history and culture and aware of culturilistic icons such as clothing and so forth. I said what I said very sarcastically to make another point, not attract hissy fits, and I said it because it's what's by the book true. Afghan female clothing is dresses made basically from many patches of clothes, in majority of areas but Kabul due to majority of Afghanistan being spread out small villages. This fact truns out to be very elegant and beautiful (if you were thinking to compare that to me "degrading" my culture, in comparisson, saaris in essence are simply fabric 1 piece wraps around a set of pants and top, and this goes for any other cultural related clothing anywhere). Then over time people began to evolve the clothing into better designed, more complicated patterns and better sewn as a result of coming into big cities that were slightly more "developed" such as Kabul due to the fashion savvy crowds. No matter what be the difference, not only Afghans state this but many that have an eye for fashion beauty state that the original design of mix of patches and different colors is what makes the dress extremely beautiful due to its wide range of orginality as most times no one dress came out the same as they were all hand made. This is the only thing that sort of combines the many provinces in Afghanistan bridging the intercultural differences including difference in wardrobes of the areas.

In Kabul pre mujahid/talib years, most of the designs worn were European clothing coming through some stores, and mainly for the state of the public, in the Leelami which is basically used clothes cleaned out very well into top used shape shipped out from many other nations including Canada and the US. There also was a handful of Chadari wearing ladies, however it was basically dependant of the age groups. The young mainly wore European styles, the young adults styling with a mix of fashion from all over but mainly europe yet again, and the older adult ages with the jacket shirt top, and long skirt along with a chadar, while people from non-rural areas mainly wear what is "culturally" Afghan (i.e. the butter selling farmers roaming through). I've lived half my life there btw so would know due to that as well ;)

Now if you wish to argue this, be my guest, will be waiting for a response.

Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
and yeah i don't think that you are gonna gain anything by kissing others' a**es and insulting your own culture.
I am not kissing any arses, nor am I insulting my own culture. If you had the ability to read and not blindly comment rather process the data prehand, you'd notice what my point is as shown below. And the only reason I am getting this much in this is not to compare Saari or Afghan clothing or any others for that matter rather the great insults thrown towards other cultures due to ignorance as THAT I see as far more degrading to Afghan people when individuals make comments that are stupid and ultimate examples of ignorance, and THAT I find insulting.


Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
2nd... like i said, and i repeat myself again.. if i were living in india, i would wear indian clothes and now that i'm in the west, i wear western clothing. simply becuz i don't wanna get attention.. there's a saying "khahee ke nashee ruswa, hamrang e jama'at bash"...
I in no way care what you wear or any others. I never went against your opinion of YOURself. I never asked where you live nor why you wish to dress the way you do.

PS: That chameleon principle is quite an interesting one that is a cheap excuse for this debate. Following that concept, what about Hijabs? All these people in the west shouldn't wear them because they are beyond doubt attracting attention? Let me guess, you were referring to a different sub species of the chameleon where their theory doesn't apply to this example?

My points about the afghan dress matter was not that in the west or india people should wear what the environment is wearing, but by the commentary regarding how Afghans should wear what is in their own culture, and by your great adaptation theory, Kabul and other Afghan cities and villages should be doing the same nah? wearing Afghan women's dresses all over? <-- see the difference? I await the great explanation of how that also attracts attention :P

My problem isn't with the clothing rather our big mouths. Want an example? What were you wearing when you were in Afghanistan ;) or Ms. Suraya jan? (that is IF any of you even have been in Afghanistan previously, and I ask for honesty, NOT swaying of the facts to match your argument)

Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
However, i don't care what you wear... why on earth should i care?... i said i don't like saree and i don't wear it... i was talking about myself.. i wasn't talking on behalf of everyone else.. and i repeadly said that everyone's opinion is different and i respect that... if you don't like my opinion, too bad, don't accuse me of saying something that i didn't say..i NEVER said that afghans are better (or worse) than others... i'm not stupid to make such a dumb comment... god, mara az ami forum teer!
Nor am I stupid to preach opinions from all and instead shoot down your personal opinion.

There is a huge difference between:

"I prefer to not wear any Saari's because they are too indian and not matching my environment"

"In my opinion people should stick to their own culture and their own values repelling anything else outside those borders"

Since the first is great and allowed by right and very much respective, while the second is passing an obvious judgement on others. Not because you state your opinion, rather because Afghans tend to single out India & Pakistan matters. What's pathetic is at least the ones that have been in Afghanistan and suffered from political means they have some reasoning behind the hatred of Pakistan. But when it comes to kids grown up in the west not having seen anything rather than happiness provided by their loving parents and top notch education and so forth, they still try to be "cool" by expressing hatred towards India and Pakistan when they know less than a Hippo.

[Saeed]

another request is, take a day or 2 after read to think over responses first applying to all rather than give the most emotionally juiced response

and also, suraya jan, she at least is making an attempt at explaining her side of the story and opinion without profanity. in case you missed it in her own post, said don't kiss other's arses ;) try to be a bit more original and convey what YOU think

[ME-Crazy]

Originally posted by Phy


Me-Crazy, lol no I haven't heard of Shekhar Suman :shy: . You know who else rocks though? Moin Akhtar :D. Him and Omar Sharif together is just killer :D. If you have an Indian or Pakistani store near where you live, definately check out their stage show Bakra Kishton Pay :clap:. The first time I saw it (and even today lol :shy: ) I honestly cried, it was that funny :yuppy :D :shy:

haha Moein Akhtar :o you know him! I love that guy ..I will definately check that video out. I think they made it for Eid celebrations na?



very funny.
first of all... THIS is why i'm mad.. cuz you don't get it even if i repeat myself 10 times... you still accuse me of things that i didn't say.
I explained why i don't wear afghani clothes in my previous post... read it carefully please.
The reason that i don't have time to explain it to you what afghani clothes is, is becuz you're an afghan and you should know it... if you were a non-afghan, then i would
When did i write "a paragraph full of insults"? and when did i say that i hate everyone? I don't hate anyone anddd i have stated in my previous post againn that i never said or thought that afghans are above others.
if you still don't get it, then that's certainly not my problem
Hamshera jaan, calm down. Chee gap ast?
Its not what you state, its how you state it. I couldnt care less what you or others wear..you may walk with leaves for all i care.
You mentioned you dont wear saree cause you are not Indian, then doesnt the same rule apply to Jeans and T-shirts, they are western clothing, or Hijab (arabic) are they not?
I am not accusing YOU, dont worry this is not Miami Vice. It's just that most afghans have this superiority complex and instead of going to their pharmacists, they keep putting other folks down and claiming that they are the best of all Nations! Please oh please lol we all know that is not true, so why not just keep our mouths shut about others eh?
Cause godforbid if others started pulling out our great achivements through-out history...where will we hide then?

[bibi_shereeni]

Next time you are unable to explain, don't pass your excuse through a long sentence stating you don't have the time, as the time excuse runs thin when you have the time to post a long comment about your opinion and others kissing up to others, rather are unable to explain afghan history in very simple terms which would take even less time.
Ok I just wrote so much stuff and my computer froze. I have to write everything again… k here we go again…
I’m not unable to explain. In the part of Afghanistan where I’m from, ppl dress pretty much like west, but in a more ba-hijab way.. like they would wear pants and a skirt on top of it.. not thick pants. And their shirts aren’t very tight (that’s how it was when I lived there and also right now). However, I believe that in the 70’s, ppl used to dress exactly like western ppl (I have seen in the pictures).


PS: That chameleon principle is quite an interesting one that is a cheap excuse for this debate. Following that concept, what about Hijabs? All these people in the west shouldn't wear them because they are beyond doubt attracting attention? Let me guess, you were referring to a different sub species of the chameleon where their theory doesn't apply to this example?
You need to calm down here. If you think it’s a “cheap excuse”, then that’s your opinion… I can’t say whether ppl should or shouldn’t wear hijab. It’s their choice.


My points about the afghan dress matter was not that in the west or india people should wear what the environment is wearing, but by the commentary regarding how Afghans should wear what is in their own culture, and by your great adaptation theory, Kabul and other Afghan cities and villages should be doing the same nah? wearing Afghan women's dresses all over? <-- see the difference? I await the great explanation of how that also attracts attention :P
Western clothing has become part of our culture. I’m not saying that it’s a good thing.. I can’t change that; it’s been like that for many years.


My problem isn't with the clothing rather our big mouths. Want an example? What were you wearing when you were in Afghanistan ;) or Ms. Suraya jan? (that is IF any of you even have been in Afghanistan previously, and I ask for honesty, NOT swaying of the facts to match your argument)
When I was in Afghanistan, I dressed like how I explained in the first paragraph (ie. like they would wear pants and a skirt on top of it…).. and that is an Honest answer ;) lol.

There is a huge difference between:

"I prefer to not wear any Saari's because they are too indian and not matching my environment"

"In my opinion people should stick to their own culture and their own values repelling anything else outside those borders"

Since the first is great and allowed by right and very much respective, while the second is passing an obvious judgement on others. Not because you state your opinion, rather because Afghans tend to single out India & Pakistan matters. What's pathetic is at least the ones that have been in Afghanistan and suffered from political means they have some reasoning behind the hatred of Pakistan. But when it comes to kids grown up in the west not having seen anything rather than happiness provided by their loving parents and top notch education and so forth, they still try to be "cool" by expressing hatred towards India and Pakistan when they know less than a Hippo

Yeah you’re right, but I didn’t say the 2nd quote, I said the first one lol.
Trust me janem, I didn’t grow up here, and yes I suffered a lot like most of us did. And yes I lived in Pakistan before coming to Canada. And no, my parents can’t provide my education expenses; I get government loans to pay my tuition fees in university. Andddd no I don’t hate Indians or anyone *sigh*

[bibi_shereeni]

Originally posted by AsH-21
another request is, take a day or 2 after read to think over responses first applying to all rather than give the most emotionally juiced response

i don't know if i'm gonna be alive tomorrow or in 2 days... so.. sorry, had to give my "emontionally juiced response" now.
lol

[bibi_shereeni]

Originally posted by ME-Crazy

You mentioned you dont wear saree cause you are not Indian, then doesnt the same rule apply to Jeans and T-shirts, they are western clothing, or Hijab (arabic) are they not?
I am not accusing YOU, dont worry this is not Miami Vice. It's just that most afghans have this superiority complex and instead of going to their pharmacists, they keep putting other folks down and claiming that they are the best of all Nations! Please oh please lol we all know that is not true, so why not just keep our mouths shut about others eh?
Cause godforbid if others started pulling out our great achivements through-out history...where will we hide then?
i explained the western clothing in my other post.
ok if you're not accusing ME, then you should've said your comment generally, not in response to MY quote.

;)

[suraya]

glad that everyone's got it by now. ash jan i am not criticizing anyone or sarees. all i am saying is that in my opinion they look very tacky.. THIS IS MY OPINION, AND NOTHING U SAY OR SOMEONE ELSE SAYS WILL CHANGE THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT SAREES. IT JUST DOESN'T GO WITH MY IMAGE OR PERSONALITY, BUT I AM SURE U HAVE YOUR OWN REASONS AND I REALLY RESPECT THAT. SO I HOPE WE ARE ALL CLEAR NOW.



P.S. BIBI_SHEREENI JAN THAT WAS A VERY NICE WAY OF EXPLAINING. NOW I LIKE THIS THREAD AT LEAST WE ARE ALL CALM.;):)

[Maihan™]

phewww, that toook a while to read....gulak oh bacha....do u sit there all night writing ur responses regarding sarees and afghani clothing???....and u criticize how much i write....geeek!!

anyhow, 1st and foremost i would like to point out that we ARE the best nationality existing and our country has the strongest and most brave people i have ever come across. Every country has it's good and bads..but generally speaking i believe our country is on the top...i'm afraid the level of development and infrastructure is not the only determining factor that i look at when stating this opinion. Zindabad AFGHANISTAN!!

And as for clothing...gulak...u as well as anyone knows that in afghanistan people dresssed in western clothing as u explained. That adapting into our culture is considered part of afghan attire in the country. The traditional afghan clothing is only worn in rural areas and has recently been nothing but a mere specticle for tourists...as u said...afghani clothing were patches of cloth sewed together to make a dress..there is nothing further left to say about it. Its been years that people have worn western style clothing in afghanistan and let's face it...western clothing is something universal..travel all around the world and u will see ppl in pants and shirts. I hardly call that copying from the west. Indian clothing on the other hand is exclusive to india, pakistan, fiji, bangladesh etc. I for one agree with these gals and dont want afghanistan to become part of those countries in attire. If one wants to style and wear a saree or a suit once in a while it's fine...but lets not make it a habit like some people have made it to be and stick to our afghaniat in the form that it has been thus far.

[ME-Crazy]

Originally posted by Maihan

anyhow, 1st and foremost i would like to point out that we ARE the best nationality existing and our country has the strongest and most brave people i have ever come across. Every country has it's good and bads..but generally speaking i believe our country is on the top...i'm afraid the level of development and infrastructure is not the only determining factor that i look at when stating this opinion. Zindabad AFGHANISTAN!!



I believe this portion of your reply was with regards to my post?:shy: lol.
I don't know about the best nationality nor sure if there's such thing, as goes the saying "Har cha ta khepal watan, Kashimr dey" lol I dont doubt the patriotic love for country as every country-men should have it in thier hearts. But my criticism was towards putting others down and not realizing that they might actually be as good as we are ;) ..
Won't prolong this, but yes haha Zindabad afghanistan, and every other country as well :)

[Maihan™]

Nah meno, dont take it personally...it was a general comment to everyone...I get reallllly frustrated and emotional when ppl mock our country in any way, shape or form. Whoever we are and whatever we've become...ultimately, even one drop of blood makes us afghan. And that is truly something to be proud of!!

[Phy]

Originally posted by Maihan
Nah meno, dont take it personally...it was a general comment to everyone...I get reallllly frustrated and emotional when ppl mock our country in any way, shape or form. Whoever we are and whatever we've become...ultimately, even one drop of blood makes us afghan. And that is truly something to be proud of!!
Perhaps that's how the rest of us feel about our own nationalities as well? :)

Me-Crazy, have you heard Moin Akhtar sing Abhi To Main Jawan Hoon? He's a funny funny guy lol :yuppy. And I honestly have absolutely no idea if that play was made for Eid :huh1: . It's probably a good 12 or 13 years old though at least :)

[suraya]

Originally posted by Maihan
phewww, that toook a while to read....gulak oh bacha....do u sit there all night writing ur responses regarding sarees and afghani clothing???....and u criticize how much i write....geeek!!

anyhow, 1st and foremost i would like to point out that we ARE the best nationality existing and our country has the strongest and most brave people i have ever come across. Every country has it's good and bads..but generally speaking i believe our country is on the top...i'm afraid the level of development and infrastructure is not the only determining factor that i look at when stating this opinion. Zindabad AFGHANISTAN!!

And as for clothing...gulak...u as well as anyone knows that in afghanistan people dresssed in western clothing as u explained. That adapting into our culture is considered part of afghan attire in the country. The traditional afghan clothing is only worn in rural areas and has recently been nothing but a mere specticle for tourists...as u said...afghani clothing were patches of cloth sewed together to make a dress..there is nothing further left to say about it. Its been years that people have worn western style clothing in afghanistan and let's face it...western clothing is something universal..travel all around the world and u will see ppl in pants and shirts. I hardly call that copying from the west. Indian clothing on the other hand is exclusive to india, pakistan, fiji, bangladesh etc. I for one agree with these gals and dont want afghanistan to become part of those countries in attire. If one wants to style and wear a saree or a suit once in a while it's fine...but lets not make it a habit like some people have made it to be and stick to our afghaniat in the form that it has been thus far.

maihan jan that's what i have been trying to say, but you explained it well. it looks fine on ppl once in a while but afghans are too much into the lifestyles, music, movies and basically everything of indians.

[Maihan™]

lol...phy sis, ur forgetting u are on an afghan forum..mentalities such as paki haters (being myself for one) and indian haters (which i dont think there are too many to begin with) definitely exist. I hear such cristicism about afghanistan when i am on none afghan forums/chats aswell...but it boils my blood when it comes from afghans themselves...my post was a bit of a reminder to afghans ;)

[Superman]

Originally posted by Maihan
lol...phy sis, ur forgetting u are on an afghan forum..mentalities such as paki haters (being myself for one) and indian haters (which i dont think there are too many to begin with) definitely exist. I hear such cristicism about afghanistan when i am on none afghan forums/chats aswell...but it boils my blood when it comes from afghans themselves...my post was a bit of a reminder to afghans ;)

TRUE!

I hate pakis.. I like indians.. i really like them.. and Indian Cricket team is my fav:proud: .. Sachin Tendulkar my fav cricketer.. I always support India anyway.. btw i watch most of the movies too..

[Superman]

forgot to mention that i have lots of indian friends.. and there are millions of indians in UK.. :lol:

[Phy]

^^^Lol the desi population in the U.K., omg like bachke rehna re baba :peace: :shy:



Originally posted by Maihan
lol...phy sis, ur forgetting u are on an afghan forum..mentalities such as paki haters (being myself for one) and indian haters (which i dont think there are too many to begin with) definitely exist. I hear such cristicism about afghanistan when i am on none afghan forums/chats aswell...but it boils my blood when it comes from afghans themselves...my post was a bit of a reminder to afghans ;)
Sweetheart don't take this the wrong way but it seems to me that you're trying to justify ignorance simply because it comes from someone of your background :shy: . Who cares if it's on an Afghan message board? If anything, comments coming from YOUR people that downplay other people's beliefs or nationality on YOUR message board is worse. It's really none of my business but what kind of an image are you guys giving of yourselves to non-Afghans? Anyways, I find it truly disappointing to see such blatant displays of ignorance from people who I would have otherwise coined to be rather intelligent. To think that you guys (I mean people in our age group ;) ) might have been the ones to improve the way the rest of the world views not only Afghans but Muslims as well :unsure: . Oh well, I see no point in arguing about it. You guys probably know what's best for yourselves :) :kh:

[suraya]

i hate pakisssssss. like nothing can change that and i hate it when afghans are taking their side and dressing and acting like them. HOW PATHETIC IS THAT??????????
MAIHAN JAN AND SUPERMAN, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH U GUYS. Y

YEAH I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST INDIANS CAUSE I HAVEN'T COME ACROSS MANY, BUT PAKIS I DEFINITELY HATE THEM AND PLEASE DON'T ASK ME WHY, BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYZ BEEN CHEATED, DECEIVED AND HURT BY PAKIS. THEY ARE LOW LIFE BACKSTABBERS DIRTY PPL. I KNOW THERE IS BAD AND GOOD EVERYWHERE, BUT IN ****ISTAN 99% ARE ALL HOT AND &%*$$$!!!!!!!


ANYONE WHO IS OFFENDED BY THIS( WHICH U GUYS SHOULDN'T BE) I DON'T GIVE A DAMN!!

:rant: :P

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Edited by AsH-21

I won't say it again... watch your language

[Saeed]

Originally posted by suraya
i hate pakisssssss. like nothing can change that and i hate it when afghans are taking their side and dressing and acting like them. HOW PATHETIC IS THAT??????????
MAIHAN JAN AND SUPERMAN, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH U GUYS. Y

YEAH I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST INDIANS CAUSE I HAVEN'T COME ACROSS MANY, BUT PAKIS I DEFINITELY HATE THEM AND PLEASE DON'T ASK ME WHY, BECAUSE I HAVE ALWAYZ BEEN CHEATED, DECEIVED AND HURT BY PAKIS. THEY ARE LOW LIFE BACKSTABBERS DIRTY PPL. I KNOW THERE IS BAD AND GOOD EVERYWHERE, BUT IN ****ISTAN 99% ARE ALL HOT AND &%*$$$!!!!!!!


ANYONE WHO IS OFFENDED BY THIS( WHICH U GUYS SHOULDN'T BE) I DON'T GIVE A DAMN!!

:rant: :P
WHY?

and oh ya, please rid me the wait of someone else to express THEIR opinion and then come up with "like that's what i've been trying to like say"

[Saeed]

Originally posted by Maihan
phewww, that toook a while to read....gulak oh bacha....do u sit there all night writing ur responses regarding sarees and afghani clothing???....and u criticize how much i write....geeek!!

anyhow, 1st and foremost i would like to point out that we ARE the best nationality existing and our country has the strongest and most brave people i have ever come across. Every country has it's good and bads..but generally speaking i believe our country is on the top...i'm afraid the level of development and infrastructure is not the only determining factor that i look at when stating this opinion. Zindabad AFGHANISTAN!!

And as for clothing...gulak...u as well as anyone knows that in afghanistan people dresssed in western clothing as u explained. That adapting into our culture is considered part of afghan attire in the country. The traditional afghan clothing is only worn in rural areas and has recently been nothing but a mere specticle for tourists...as u said...afghani clothing were patches of cloth sewed together to make a dress..there is nothing further left to say about it. Its been years that people have worn western style clothing in afghanistan and let's face it...western clothing is something universal..travel all around the world and u will see ppl in pants and shirts. I hardly call that copying from the west. Indian clothing on the other hand is exclusive to india, pakistan, fiji, bangladesh etc. I for one agree with these gals and dont want afghanistan to become part of those countries in attire. If one wants to style and wear a saree or a suit once in a while it's fine...but lets not make it a habit like some people have made it to be and stick to our afghaniat in the form that it has been thus far.
nerd, other than rewording my post, your point is? :unsure:

lemme guess the response :D "as you said ... & as you said ..." :D

[suraya]

Originally posted by AsH-21
WHY?

and oh ya, please rid me the wait of someone else to express THEIR opinion and then come up with "like that's what i've been trying to like say"

i don't care what u think!! i don't like them and i have stated it many times and if someone thinks like me then ofcourse i am going to say, " that's what i have been trying to say."

btw why r u in love with the daalkhors????:P

[Saeed]

Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
i don't know if i'm gonna be alive tomorrow or in 2 days... so.. sorry, had to give my "emontionally juiced response" now.
lol
haha, just for this :hail:

best of luck to you and your beliefs

[Saeed]

Originally posted by suraya
i don't care what u think!! i don't like them and i have stated it many times and if someone thinks like me then ofcourse i am going to say, " that's what i have been trying to say."

btw why r u in love with the daalkhors????:P
exactly :console:

great job and best of luck with all your preternatural vox populi... i see public office in your future

[Maihan™]

Originally posted by Phy
^^^Lol the desi population in the U.K., omg like bachke rehna re baba :peace: :shy:



Sweetheart don't take this the wrong way but it seems to me that you're trying to justify ignorance simply because it comes from someone of your background :shy: . Who cares if it's on an Afghan message board? If anything, comments coming from YOUR people that downplay other people's beliefs or nationality on YOUR message board is worse. It's really none of my business but what kind of an image are you guys giving of yourselves to non-Afghans? Anyways, I find it truly disappointing to see such blatant displays of ignorance from people who I would have otherwise coined to be rather intelligent. To think that you guys (I mean people in our age group ;) ) might have been the ones to improve the way the rest of the world views not only Afghans but Muslims as well :unsure: . Oh well, I see no point in arguing about it. You guys probably know what's best for yourselves :) :kh:



I am not too sure what you mean by justifying ignorance???...you find afghans insulting afghanistan and that bothering me ignorance?? If you are referring to the extent to which afghans hate pakis..thats a different story. I dont know why you guys find it so hard to believe that Pakistanis have never done good for afghans. This can be justified both historically and most afghans who have had the unfortunate luck of living in that godforsaken country can support the issue at hand. As suraya jan mentioned once before...take this very seriously and literallly...we have been cheated out of our rights while living in that country...been backstabbed by EACH and every paki we've ever come across...this i can assure you from personal experience...i have come across many...both in the 2 years i've lived in that country and all the paki "friends" i have had in the 14 years i've been in canada. Bottom line is, when we have hatred for a certain nationality...we have it with reason...and as these ladies have mentioned previously...there is no denying good and bad in any race/nationality...thus i will leave you saying...the day i meet ONE pakistani person who is truly good at heart with no ulterior motives...i will ask for forgiveness from god for thinking the way i do about these disgusting people we call our "muslim brothers".

btw..i do take into consideration what others think of afghans and i represent us as pakistani haters...there is no denying that!!!

[Yasamine]

actually i used to defend pakiz .. i mean for the 3 yrz dat i lived in paki... only the SPz were pain in the butt.. my neighbourz were kewl n very friendly :hip:

but i came here.. (nz) n i had a friend who turned out to be an oxymoron n this other lady who had sum serious mental problems and after dat pakiz arent my fav ppl.. thou i still have sum gud paki friendz ;)

btw.. i dun see wat this whole arguement is about... js coz sum1 likes indian clothes doesnt NOT make them afghanz.. i watch indian movies, listen to their music, n yum love their food.. same wid iranian n english... but i still call myself a proud afghan :cool: so suraya jan n bibi sherin i really dun get where ur coming from :blink:

and phy dear.. itz great to have u in this forum, no matter wat race u are :respect:

[Maihan™]

Originally posted by AsH-21
nerd, other than rewording my post, your point is? :unsure:

lemme guess the response :D "as you said ... & as you said ..." :D

qandolakem, my point is that pants and a shirt and dresses can be categorized into what afghans wear and have worn for years in afghanistan...but indian clothing cannot be..and hopefully will never be...

With no intention of disrespect to Phy who is indian...i personally love indian clothing with all the colors and fabrics...but i dont want it to be part of the afghan culture within the next generation..because we are starting to forget our own culture amongst all the turmoil

Peace

[ME-Crazy]

Originally posted by Superman

I hate pakis.. I like indians.. i really like them.. and Indian Cricket team is my fav:proud: .. Sachin Tendulkar my fav cricketer.. I always support India anyway.. btw i watch most of the movies too..

lol. Now I know that you Know better than this! You and I both know there is no such term as "Pakistani" if we go back tracing history.They are either Afghans or Indians. Dont generalize oh biader ;) your reply seems like "Khesht'e Awal Gar Nehad Ma'mar Kaj ------Ta (-***-)Merawad Deewar Kaj" lol the word in the blank. Oh and i like the Indian Cricket team as well ;)

And as far as preventing Indian culture from influencing the Afghan culture goes,we might be a little too late for that (to be precise about 18 centuries). From Buddhism (Statues Of Bamyian as their example) to items of clothing such as the Maatika and Chadar (veil not Hijab) and games such as chess and classical arts all are remainders of Indian culture.

[Maihan™]

Originally posted by ME-Crazy
And as far as preventing Indian culture from influencing the Afghan culture goes,we might be a little too late for that (to be precise about 18 centuries). From Buddhism (Statues Of Bamyian as their example) to items of clothing such as the Maatika and Chadar (veil not Hijab) and games such as chess and classical arts all are remainders of Indian culture.


Yes that's an obvious fact because we used to be a buddhist country before islam. Thats basically where afghans have their routes...in which case if our culture overlaps the indian culture it is still considered part of ancient afghan culture. The fact of the matter is that afghans wear panjabi suits as daily wear adopted from indians and pakis in the years we have lived there...this is escalating to the point where i went to an alll out afghani wedding this weekend and our great singer qader eshpari was literally singing more indian movie songs than afghani songs. Kind of made me wonder if we were at a indian wedding or afghani...such things i cant stand for because it will eventually mix in with afghan culture and our kids will be dressing, listening and will know more hindi than our own dari/pukhto.

[bibi_shereeni]

Originally posted by Maihan
...such things i cant stand for because it will eventually mix in with afghan culture and our kids will be dressing, listening and will know more hindi than our own dari/pukhto.
Maihan sis, that's what i'm worried about too... i wish everyone could think that way and took it seriously.

AsH, for some reason i thought you were a girl, until someone said "he".. so, if in my previous posts, i said something like "you go ahead and wear saree".. i wasn't trying to be funny (i don't know if i said anything like that, but in case i did)...
and yeah thanks for wishing me luck, i wish you the same ;)

ps. i just found out that Phy is a guy too, so edited my post to mention his name too lol. so, phy what i just said to Ash about wearing saree, applies to you as well :)

[suraya]

Originally posted by bibi_shereeni
Maihan sis, that's what i'm worried about too... i wish everyone could think that way and took it seriously.

AsH, for some reason i thought you were a girl, until someone said "he".. so, if in my previous posts, i said something like "you go ahead and wear saree".. i wasn't trying to be funny (i don't know if i said anything like that, but in case i did)...
and yeah thanks for wishing me luck, i wish you the same ;)

ps. i just found out that Phy is a guy too, so edited my post to mention his name too lol. so, phy what i just said to Ash about wearing saree, applies to you as well :)

i thought phy was a girl.:| :?:o

[Maihan™]

lol...nope...i am pretty certain phy jan is a sis:bleh:

[bibi_shereeni]

Originally posted by Maihan
lol...nope...i am pretty certain phy jan is a sis:bleh:
:o in this other thread, "Forum King", Arian called phy a bro :|
that's why i thought he/she is a girl. :| :|

[Phy]

Hahaha you guys I was only kidding in that king thread :D. I'm a girl :shy:

[suraya]

hey phy at first i thought you were a guy then a girl then a guy so if i have said anything to offend you sweety i apologize.:)

[Nusheen]

Originally posted by suraya
sarees=ewww cause they make you look fat and they are just too gay and plain and wierd.


bare hindi haa maqbool mega saaree...ama bare afghan haa ne mesle een ke boji ra beposhan:shy:

[Superman]

Originally posted by Phy
Hahaha you guys I was only kidding in that king thread :D. I'm a girl :shy:

prove it:naughty:

[suraya]

Originally posted by Nusheen
bare hindi haa maqbool mega saaree...ama bare afghan haa ne mesle een ke boji ra beposhan:shy:

yeah u r right sis. i agree.:)