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    Default Was Afghanistan Part of India? that's according to Indians?

    YEs We have always been claim one or the other just to fit well for their own means, first Iranians, due to the fact Afghanistan was where zorastrian religion came abouts and Zorastria's birth place, (also the book Awesta) and now ever since evidence that Rig vada was created in Afghanistan not in Indus Valley upshots the Indians to make their claim over Afghanistan.

    Well We all know abouts of this Aryan invasion theory was all wrong, the fact that Aryan were always native of Afghanistan ie (Argyans in Awesta ie capital at Arghandab Awesta Gatha =Argyandab) with such civilizations as 6000 years old founded, Mundigak, Dah Moraissi Ghuna, and others near Kabul river, and Balkh is the key evidence which helped many researchers to visit back the "Aryan myth" or European theory of Invasion of Indo-Europeans from Central Asia into Afghanistan, and from Afghanistan into India, etc etc, but how come Afghans made no response as they always have? Therefore Afghans were the Aryans but how closely are we related with Indians? Proven by both genetics and historical evidence shows that Germans, or Central Asian were NOT Aryans, and that Aryans did not invaded India as it was assumed, or if any it would of been migration, and that Aryans were located in Indian Land (Punjab) as far as 2500-2000 BCE which proves false "big idea" of 1500 BCE Aryan Invasion. There one has to admit that Aryans were in India sometime before 1500 BCE.

    But how far can we go, I mean were Afghans and Indians onces even before 3000 BCE? I mean this is what Dr Pramod Pathak suggested in his book "The Afghan Connection" (No I have not read the book but i will get my hands at it. However this is the map I received from International history forum)




    Aryavart 2500 BCE






    I get most or all of the names ie like
    Sistan=Sakastan, Bactria=Pakhtria, Yadu=Sindu etc etc but where the hell is Druhyu? I will be glade to get reference from some-one in here.


    Well the Indians claim Afghanistan
    as part of them, could it be? since we can see 5 provinces of Aryavarta is on one side of the Indus river and 5 provinces other side. Afghan land alone claims 4 of the five in the West and Merv is claimed by Iranians as their tribes of Parthia comes from. However due to 5 of the Aryavarta provinces are claimed by Indians with population of over 600 million, is another reason why they claim us part of them.
    So what do you guys think?

    BTW the other question that gets me concerned what about rest of India, as we can see from his own map, not all of India was "Aryanic"? SO why should Aryavarta be India?

    BTW GUYS Aryaverta is Argyana or spelled in english as Aryana, so if anyone more source to connect this Aryana being that big to include Anu, and puru please provide some source.
    Last edited by Nick; 02-19-2008 at 01:38 AM.

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    Default Re: Was Afghanistan Part of India? that's according to Indians?

    well there was no such thing as United India (or Hindustan) before British independence. so indians claiming what is part of afghanistan??, hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarem View Post
    well there was no such thing as United India (or Hindustan) before British independence. so indians claiming what is part of afghanistan??, hmmm
    nwfp was a apart of the britissh raj and dat included india... but NWFP was leased from afghanistan 4 a hundered years the durrand line treaty which has now expired as of 1993 as 4 mainland afghanistan no it was nver part of india
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    Default Re: Was Afghanistan Part of India? that's according to Indians?

    Indians believed every thing to be part of india(even parts of china too)
    in early 60s china fixed india, by kicking its a$$ royally.
    There was no such thing as india all through the history.
    india as it exist today was ruled by mughels and british.
    Other than that it was like 500 small kingdoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knockout_artist View Post
    Indians believed every thing to be part of india(even parts of china too)
    in early 60s china fixed india, by kicking its a$$ royally.
    There was no such thing as india all through the history.
    india as it exist today was ruled by mughels and british.
    Other than that it was like 500 small kingdoms.
    and the bulk of pakistan was carved out from those small kingdoms with the exception of NWFP and blochistan
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    What ever. Pishawer always was part of pakistan and it always would be.
    So was quetta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knockout_artist View Post
    What ever. Pishawer always was part of pakistan and it always would be.
    So was quetta.
    keep dreaming.... paks is only 60 yrs or so old



    peshawer and quetta history is like 5000 yrs old
    u do da math!
    and look up any map b4 1893 whn durrand line treatry was signed itll show u whts wht
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    facts are facts knockout atrist..... we cant change them 2 suit our own ends!
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    Default Re: Was Afghanistan Part of India? that's according to Indians?

    in last 5000 years this area(pakistan) was invaded/ruled by different rulers.
    Guess what they all got their Butt kicked together.
    From huns to mughals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knockout_artist View Post
    in last 5000 years this area(pakistan) was invaded/ruled by different rulers.
    Guess what they all got their Butt kicked together.
    From huns to mughals.
    pakistan didnt exist!!!!!!!
    was always a part of india
    nwfp was always a part of afghanistan!!!!!!
    simple concept!
    plz dont tie pakiustans history 2 our lands!!!!!
    and if memeory serves correct punjabies got their butts kicked not pashtuns!!!!!! guess dats why they so desaperate 2 keep a hold of us coz we have 2 fight their battles... kashmir rings a bell.... we should have left them 2 the mercy of india
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pashto Dreamer View Post
    pakistan didnt exist!!!!!!!
    was always a part of india
    nwfp was always a part of afghanistan!!!!!!
    simple concept!
    plz dont tie pakiustans history 2 our lands!!!!!
    and if memeory serves correct punjabies got their butts kicked not pashtuns!!!!!! guess dats why they so desaperate 2 keep a hold of us coz we have 2 fight their battles... kashmir rings a bell.... we should have left them 2 the mercy of india
    there was no such thing as india before the british, the area was just a bunch of princely states. we could delve deeper into history when the maurya empire and what not existed but even then, no india until 60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knockout_artist View Post
    in last 5000 years this area(pakistan) was invaded/ruled by different rulers.
    Guess what they all got their Butt kicked together.
    From huns to mughals.
    pretty much. indus valley has been rule by almost all of the major world civilizations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarem View Post
    there was no such thing as india before the british, the area was just a bunch of princely states. we could delve deeper into history when the maurya empire and what not existed but even then, no india until 60.
    whtever punjab=desi
    india=desi
    sind=desi
    NWFP=central asian/persian
    Balochistan=central asian/persian
    hmmmm i c a pattan here!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarem View Post
    pretty much. indus valley has been rule by almost all of the major world civilizations.
    yeah coz theyre so crap at defending themselves
    nwfp dont fall in2 indus valley btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pashto Dreamer View Post
    yeah coz theyre so crap at defending themselves
    nwfp dont fall in2 indus valley btw
    all the civilizations flew over afghanistan right? :lol: get real.

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    Default Re: Was Afghanistan Part of India? that's according to Indians?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarem View Post
    there was no such thing as india before the british, the area was just a bunch of princely states. we could delve deeper into history when the maurya empire and what not existed but even then, no india until 60.
    You're wrong. The India of the British was an extension of the India of the Mughals. It was the creation of the Mughals that Britain took over the running of and which they eventually handed over to the modern world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pashto Dreamer View Post
    yeah coz theyre so crap at defending themselves
    nwfp dont fall in2 indus valley btw

    dude your home town couldn't help much either.
    We were together in it remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knockout_artist View Post
    What ever. Pishawer always was part of pakistan and it always would be.
    So was quetta.
    Considering the history of Peshawar it may have at large be indian population and it was during Kushans that Peshawar too was influenced Afghans. Today their are mixed although the natives of Peshwaris in reality are the hindkos, everybody knowns that, yes they have Afghan bloods in them, sometimes people consider them Afghan but you need to understand more then ever Peshawar has become the nest Kabul, it would be hard for us Afghans to take out from our hearts and minds.


    Claiming Quetta is the silly mistake, Quetta has always been part of Qandahar and historically under Zawalistan/Sakastan and famous Afghan town, now that it has become a large city is a different question. Even on the group Peshawar is at large controlled by Pakistan where as Quetta LOL never mind it almost makes me laugh. If you want to claim Quetta make sure you also take rest of Zawalistan.

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    Guys try not to get politics in there, we are talking history, so it would be kind of you all to get into the topic. I have some questions to be solved. And I want to know to know what you guys think over all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knockout_artist View Post
    dude your home town couldn't help much either.
    We were together in it remember?
    no actually..... NWFP has been more than capable of defending itself
    also wishing NWFP was a a part of da indus valley wont make it true.....
    Last edited by Pashto Dreamer; 02-19-2008 at 02:36 PM.
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