[Baktash]

Many modernized Muslims, like so many other Orientals, equate science with civilization and judge the value of any human society and its culture by whether or not it has produced science, disregarding completely the lessons of the history of science itself.

that a person whose iman (faith) is based upon the Qur’an’s miraculous mention of the expansion of the universe, for instance, has little iman at all, in fact. Rather, his heart is saying, “Scientific knowledge is absolute truth; thus if the Qur’an confirms it, then it must be a part of truth also.”

why are some people so sure that Scientific knowledge is absolute truth?

[Shareef]

Arent you the same Baktash who wrote:

"For everything, Islam has rules and procedures/ forexample islam has told us 1400 years ago: how to drink water. Scientists have now found this that it's good to sit and drink water, rather than standing. this was just an example."

Can you go a week without contradicting and confusing yourself?

"umm... love is haraam.. im in love with this girl.. umm no wait Im in love with your sister.... science doesnt prove anything... people who believe in science have no iman... umm no wait science has just proven that its good to drink water standing up"

Get your life together Baktash
Now is the time. You can do it!
I believe in you...

[Baktash]

Originally posted by Shareef
Arent you the same Baktash who wrote:

"For everything, Islam has rules and procedures/ forexample islam has told us 1400 years ago: how to drink water. Scientists have now found this that it's good to sit and drink water, rather than standing. this was just an example."

Can you go a week without contradicting and confusing yourself?

"umm... love is haraam.. im in love with this girl.. umm no wait Im in love with your sister.... science doesnt prove anything... people who believe in science have no iman... umm no wait science has just proven that its good to drink water standing up"

Get your life together Baktash
Now is the time. You can do it!
I believe in you...

You should first understand what i am talking about, and then, reply. Dont make fun of yourself by not understanding and replying.

I said there are so many things that Islam has said and Science has proved it now.

And i was talking about those people who think that science is absolutely true. so if science has proven something and Islam has said that too, they think that Islam is true.

Like I meant that these people only accept Islam based on that concept. They dont have their own understanding of Islam.


And then there are those Muslims who believe in Islam. If Islam says something they believe in it, they dont care what science says about that.
I hope you got it.

[Shareef]

You should first understand what i am talking about, and then, reply.

First.. YOU were not talking about anything. What you wrote wasnt even written by you, it was written by Sayed Hossein Nasr - one of the most important figures in contemporary Islamic philosophy:

"Many modernized Muslims, like so many other Orientals, equate science with civilization and judge the value of any human society and its culture by whether or not it has produced science, disregarding completely the lessons of the history of science itself." (Islam and the Plight of Modern Man, Seyyed Hossein Nasr, p. 186)

http://www.islamonline.net/askabouti...uestionID=9159

As we have told you many times - STOP COPYING OTHER PEOPLE AND WRITE SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF. If you want to copy others, then POST YOUR SOURCES!

I said there are so many things that Islam has said and Science has proved it now.

And i was talking about those people who think that science is absolutely true. so if science has proven something and Islam has said that too, they think that Islam is true.

Okay now one doesnt have to be Aristotle to see the connection between the two cases. You are using different words to describe the same thing. If one says that science has proven many Islamic things correct, then it must follow then that person believes science to be absolutely true. If science was not absolutely true, then it could not "prove" anything, as you claim it has proven Islam.

Hence the situation in your original post:

Rather, his heart is saying, “Scientific knowledge is absolute truth; thus if the Qur’an confirms it, then it must be a part of truth also.”

Remember: Consistency is the key to a successful life :good: